React Without JavaScript?

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If React runs on a server and no one is around to see it, does it still make a sound? In this talk, Fred explores the world of server-side optimizations: what's possible today and what does the future hold? Featuring a sneak peek at an exciting new, never-before-seen project from the Snowpack team to help you build faster sites with React!

Fred K. Schott
Fred K. Schott
26 min
14 May, 2021

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This is a talk about the language of web development and how it influences what we can build. It introduces Astro, a method for building faster websites with less client-side JavaScript. Astro brings together the power of JavaScript and the speed of HTML. It explains how to mix scripting and markup using a frontmatter script. Astro allows you to use React components in an Astro application, generating server-side markup. It offers opt-in interactivity with JavaScript and an HTML-first output.

Available in Español: ¿React sin JavaScript?

1. The Language of Web Development

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This is a talk about the language of web development and how it influences what we can build. It gives an example of a conference talk by Pete Hunt, one of the creators of React, where he introduces React and its concepts to an audience unfamiliar with them.

Hi. My name is Fred Schott, and this is my talk, Astro, React without JavaScript. This is a talk about language. And I don't mean JavaScript versus PHP versus C++ versus Fortran. What I mean is the language of the mind. And really, the language of how we talk about web development, and how we think about web development, and how that influences what we can build as web developers.

You know, what's seen as easy versus what's seen as hard. What's straightforward versus what's very difficult. What's possible and what's impossible. All comes from the language that we speak about web development.

And to give you an example, what I'm talking about, I want to show a conference talk that I really love. This is probably my favorite talk of the last 20 years. Besides, obviously the infamous what talk, if you haven't seen it, it's a delight. Definitely recommend you giving that a quick Google when the conference is over. But what I want to talk about is this talk. This is Pete Hunt, one of the creators of React, talking about React. And really launching React.

Now, what you need to know about this talk is that it's taking place in 2013. And this is essentially everyone's first time seeing React. And so, the ideas that are being pitched here, you know, in 2020, these are ideas of components and render cycles and how we think about Front End development. It all sounds like exactly what we have come to understand as good best practices. But, to this audience, these concepts are very foreign. This is not an audience that speaks in components and JSX. This is an audience that is traditionally only ever thought in terms of MVC. That's Model View Controller. If you were lucky enough to have missed this part of web development, I will spare you the details. You didn't miss much of anything. But MVC was this idea of separating your code, and separating your concerns in such a way as to bring some clarity and cleanliness to your code base. Separating your concerns was the goal here. And so, when Facebook launched Components, it was essentially this idea of, you know, MVC isn't the answer.

2. React's Challenging Introduction

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Facebook's introduction of React was met with skepticism as it challenged established best practices in web development, particularly the MVC architecture. Many questioned why Facebook thought they could challenge the status quo and deviate from the widely accepted approach. The general response was that React's approach to web development did not align with the industry's thinking at the time.

You're separating these things, but you've coupled yourselves in all these different ways. Components is a much better idea. That was the React pitch. And that was met with what I would generally call snark. Snark, I think, is the technical definition for what that reception was like. Because, you know, I think this tweet can probably say it better than I could. The general thinking was that Facebook was throwing away established best practices. And, you know, who were they to do that, right? MVC is the best it will ever be. Who does Facebook think they are challenging the status quo? And to be fair, I'm adding a lot of emphasis that isn't really there in this tweet. As far as Twitter feedback goes, this is pretty polite and straightforward. But the general response was, you know, this isn't how we think about web development. What are you talking about?

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